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Feb 5, 2011 A Reader’s Email Misunderstands my Remarks on the Talmud

 

A reader of this web site sent me the following email:

 

“Dear Sir,

 

That I am an Anglo-Saxon of Angli descent and do support some of your ideology.  Mainline Christian churches have been apostate for a long time as I do agree with your summation.  As a student of learning I do see some agreement in your site but have a minor problem.  It appears you support the Babylonian Talmud where as I disagree with with that terminology.  While I agree with some of Judah's law as we know Judah is our lawgiver.  Established by our Creator long ago. I am not a hater of the Jewish people but like many others still remain confused where good Torah Jews stand.  Talmudism like the Amelikites or Torah as Judah was taught.  If I am correct the Law of Judah other than the tradition of the Elders applies to Israel as it does Judah. We are brother nations in the sight of our Creator but the line was drawn where the ‘Tradition of the Elders’ is concerned because it adds unto the word of our Creator period. Please reply in kind,…”

 

My reply said:

 

“Dear Sir:

 

Thank you for your email.  Let me start by posing some questions to you.  Do you have any personal first hand information about the Talmud or are you operating personally in the dark on what it may or may not say?  Have you ever read any passages from the Talmud?  Do you know what purpose the Talmud serves?  In fact, have you ever even seen either the Jerusalem Talmud or the Babylonian Talmud?  Do you have any first hand information or are you merely relying on what someone else told you about the Talmud? 

 

My position on the Talmud is outlined in volume XII of Ezekiel and YHWH’s judgment for the Good News People at age-end.com.  There are about 7 or 8 chapters which address the Talmud in detail.  Perhaps you did not read all of this material.  If you didn’t read it, possibly you may want to go back and read it now to see my position.  I certainly don’t obey the Talmud; but I do fully understand that much of the New Testament comes directly from the Talmud, including so called do and don’t (like prayers before eating, like Satan’s copulation with Eve, etc).  Thus, I know it is impossible to understand the NT without some appreciation for the Talmud.  In saying appreciation, I am not referring to rules to obey; although many of those in the NT come directly from the Talmud. 

 

But with appreciation of the Talmud, I appreciate the setting.  So you should know that many of the sayings in the Talmud came from people who were contemporaries of YESHUA—both His friends and supporters as well as His most bitter enemies.  They were people, good or bad, who personally knew Him.  And otherwise, the writers were His ancestors who lived up to 500 years before He was even born.  Is it valuable to know something about these writings which are 2000 to 2500 years old?  Or is it more educational to read the views of pagan sun worship Christians from the last couple of hundred years—like Wesley, White and the thousands of other confused Christian sun worship writers.  Of course, most Christians like to read Christian sun worship theology.  But I hope you are different. 

 

On the Talmud, Christians go to pieces over the Talmud and some few of its words critical of the Christian GeeZeus and pagan Christianity in general.  But the difference is that the persons making those statements operated with complete freedom of speech.  Their words and messages were not censored or forbidden.  They could say whatever they wanted to say--good or bad--and with complete freedom of speech.  Can you name one Christian Church which allows complete freedom of speech in its writings?  No, Christian denominations censor the material that they feed the dumb sheep.

 

Since WWII, the Rothschild media has worked overtime to shut down and close down all public expressions which do not meet their standards (they call this hate speech and are now working to prohibit so called hate thoughts in people’s minds).  And anyone thinking that you can publicly criticize collective Jews, Blacks, or homosexuals are lost in wonder land.  We have completely changed because before WWII our people did freely criticize all three of these.  And as I have elsewhere discussed on the Wikileak thing, the powers that be are fast moving to shut down all freedom of speech.  Will they succeed?  Yes, they will. 

 

As far as traditions, they can be good or bad.  Shaul, for example, taught obedience to certain traditions (II Thess 2:15; 3:6).  Since the whole atmosphere and public worship practice and ritual in the New Testament were Orthodox Judaism, I hardly believe that Shaul would have condemned them (and for anyone wishing to deny this, I am compelled to question how much they know about the New Testament).  Yet, every sun worship Christian Church in existence has traditions which the sun worshippers are totally obsessed with obeying and following even thought they have no basis whatsoever in either the Old Testament or the New Testament. 

 

In sum, would you say that an educated man reads both material he agrees with as well as material he disagrees with?  Or does he stupidly only reads material he agrees with?  In any case, I fully intend to spend time reading material of 2000 to 2500 years ago from people, both friends and foes, who knew YESHUA, His father, mother, ancestors, contemporaries, friends and enemies.” 

 

In the way of an addendum, let me suggest that readers here go back and read volume XII of Ezekiel and YHWH’s Judgment for the Good People as it fully explains the Talmud and its division into the Mishnah (which has rules to obey ) and the Gemara (which is the opinion of different writers).  In Judaism, this opinion carries little or no weight.  In a further note on traditions, the writer apparently was referring to Matt 15:2-6.  But he neglected to write what it was all about.  The issue involved traditions which set aside the commandments of YHWH in the Torah.  Obviously, any tradition which would nullify one of YHWH's commandments is bad.  Though this is true as applying to Judaism, it is just as much true as applying to Christendom where the traditions of almost all of Christianity nullify the Torah.