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The Talmud

By an unworthy servant

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The Jewish exile to Babylon, in about 554 BCE, is discussed at some length in several places at this web site and needs no particular focus now except to address it briefly in the context of the Talmud which is a topic of some concern now in the modern Christian Identity movement as well as in much of Christendom generally.

The time of the exile of the remnant of Yehudah (Judah) to Babylon was the time for the development of the synagogue places of worship (away from the Scripturally designated Jerusalem as the proper place of worship); and the beginnings of the Talmud which most Christians have come to passionately hate--because they truly don’t understand the ancient origin of the Talmud and what it represented and the role it played in the New Testament (NT) to define the followers of YESHUA.

Backdrop on the Talmud

At this juncture, let me digress for a moment in this article and give some of the background on the Talmud (this subject needs not be addressed in any detail as it is covered in several chapters in volume 12 of Ezekiel and YHWH’s Judgment for the Good News People in the left menu column at this web site).

Let me ask the current Christians hollering about the Talmud--do you have any personal first-hand knowledge/information about the Talmud or are you operating personally in the dark on what it may or may not say? Have you ever read any passages from the Talmud? Do you know what purpose the Talmud serves? In fact, have you ever even seen either the Jerusalem Talmud or the Babylonian Talmud? Did you even know that there are actually two different Talmuds? Do you have any first hand information or are you merely relying on what someone else told you about the Talmud?

Correctly, it must be said that there are actually two Talmuds as just noted (the Jerusalem Talmud and the Babylonian Talmud, as reduced to writing in about 200 to 500 CE). In general, both Talmuds were originally given orally and are very similar in many ways. They are both divided into two sections—the Mishnah which represents the so called oral law in support of the Torah and the Gemara which is nothing but opinions from ancient people on what they thought the Torah said.

The Gemara opinions mean nothing from the standpoint of Jewish law or authority. But they do offer the thinking and ideas from people living from 2,000 to 2,500 years ago. Thus, they are very ancient in origin. In Judaism, this opinion carries little or no weight; though it is worthy of study and thought by sincerely religious people.

The Role of Traditions

In a further note on so called opinion, it is true that the traditions of the elders are condemned in the New Testament (Matt 15:2-6). And probably, although not certainly defined, the issue here in Matthew was the traditions cited in the Talmud in its then oral form.

But what all readers fail to grasp is that the issue in Matthew involved traditions “which set aside the commandments of YHWH in the Torah.” Obviously, any tradition which would nullify one of YHWH's commandments is bad. Though this is true as applying to Judaism, it is just as true and applicable to Christendom where the traditions of almost all of Christianity completely nullify the Torah (yes, Christian traditions from the modern 33,000 or so different Christian denominations [per http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/a106.htm] are as bad as Jewish traditions).

Most informed people, above the idiot level, fully know that the backbone of Christianity and Christian belief is that the “law” (the Torah in the Hebrew context) was done away with in the New Testament. Since Christians go to pieces and scream and holler about the evils of traditions in the Talmud, why don’t they go to pieces over Christian traditions which set aside the laws/commandments in the Torah? Unless the reader here is totally lost on the real world, he should pull his head out of the sand and criticize and complain over Christian traditions which set aside the commandments of YHWH.

Why must Christians be such hypocrites? Old time Bluegrass stars named Lester Flatt and Earl Scruggs used to have a song which they recorded at Carnegie Hall back in the 1960s on Sister Mary has hypocrite shoes and don’t put them hypocrite shoes on me. Yet, Christians gladly wear the hypocrite shoes over the Jewish Talmud versus Christian opinions, writings, and traditions as found liberally throughout Christianity and especially in denominational literature of the some 33,000 different Christian denominations.

The Value of the Talmud

This writer certainly doesn’t obey the Talmud; but I do fully understand that much of the New Testament (NT) comes directly from the Talmud, including so called dos and don’ts (like saying prayers before eating, addressing a Sabbath day’s journey, rules for divorce and remarriage, Satan’s copulation with Eve, etc). Thus, I know it is impossible to understand the NT without some appreciation for the Talmud. In saying appreciation, I am not referring to rules to obey; although many of those in the NT come directly from the Mishnah of the Talmud.

But with appreciation of the Talmud, I do appreciate the setting. Thus, readers here should know that many of the sayings in the Talmud came from people who were contemporaries of YESHUA—both His friends and supporters as well as His most bitter enemies. They were people, good or bad, who personally saw Him, talked to Him, and knew Him well. And otherwise, the writers were His ancestors who had lived up to 500 years before He was even born.

Is it valuable to know something about these writings which are 2,000 to 2,500 years old? Or is it more educational to read the views of pagan sun worship Christians from the last few hundred years—like Wesley, White and the thousands of other confused Christian sun worship writers who have chosen to place their opinions and church traditions into the writings of the various denominational Christian Churches?

Of course, most Christians like to read sun worship theology, as believed and taught in Christian churches and accept it as law and truth. Tragically, very few Christians will dare attack and criticize Christian traditions from sun worship theology; but almost all Christians go wild in condemnation of the Talmud.

On the Talmud, Christians in particular go to pieces over the Talmud and some few of its words critical of the Christian GeeZeus and certainly pagan Christianity in general in the Gemara. But the key difference here today is that the persons making those statements operated with complete freedom of speech. Their words and messages were not censored or forbidden, as is true in almost all Christian Churches and even in almost all of secular society today.

Thousands of years ago, people could say in the Gemara whatever they wanted to say--good or bad--and with complete freedom of speech. Can the reader here name one Christian Church today which allows complete freedom of speech in its writings? No, Christian denominations censor the material that they feed the dumb sheep under their control. They will not allow their writers to deviate from the approved denominational pitch (whatever it is).

In secular society, since WWII, the Rothschild-Khazar Jew media has worked overtime to shut down and close down all public expressions which do not meet their standards on race, sex and a number of topics. They call this hate speech and are now working to prohibit so called hate thoughts in people’s minds. Most fundamentalists and people on the right define this censoring as being made against politically incorrect speech. Hence, today, people can lose their jobs and be fired and condemned if they accidently or on purpose speak politically incorrect words and/or ideas.

And anyone thinking that you can publicly today criticize collective Jews, Blacks, or homosexuals is lost in wonder land. We have completely changed; because before WWII, our people did freely criticize all three of these subjects. And now, since WWII, it is forbidden to criticize them and dozens of other things as decreed by the Khazar Jew masters ruling the Christian West. Yes, the powers that be are fast moving to shut down all freedom of speech. Will they succeed? Yes, they will (on this see Understanding Money and War, Part XIX in the right menu column of this web site).

As far as traditions, they can be good or bad. Shaul, for example, taught obedience to certain traditions (II Thess 2:15; 3:6). Since the whole atmosphere and public worship practices and rituals in the New Testament were Orthodox Judaism, I hardly believe that Shaul would have condemned them (and for anyone wishing to deny this, I am compelled to question how much they know about the New Testament). Yet, every sun worship Christian Church in existence has traditions which the sun worshippers are totally obsessed with obeying and following even though they have no basis whatsoever in either the Old Testament or the New Testament.

The Mark of an Educated and Informed Person

In sum, would you say that an educated man reads both material he agrees with as well as material he disagrees with? Or does he stupidly only reads material he agrees with? In any case, I fully intend to spend time reading material of 2,000 to 2,500 years ago from people, both friends and foes, who knew YESHUA, His father, mother, ancestors, contemporaries, friends and enemies.

The Amalekites and the Talmud

In its beginning, and during most of its development, the Talmud (certainly the authoritative Mishnah portion of it) had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the Amalekites/Edomites and should not be attributed to the Amalekites/Edomites as some ignorant Christians tend to do in modern times (and certainly the kingdom of the Khazars that supposedly converted to Judaism in c740CE had absolutely nothing to do with the development of the Talmud which had been compiled and placed in writing long centuries earlier, in about 200-500 CE).

Ignorant Christians hate the Talmud so much that they attribute all of it to the works of the Amalekites/Edomites. But the truth is that the Amalekites/Edomites had little or nothing to do with the overall Talmud over the ages, save possibly some few presentations of opinion cited in the Gemara of the Talmud in late Second Temple days.

While some of the hostile and critical remarks on YESHUA from the Gemara (in the form of opinions) were probably from the Amalekite Shammai Pharisees of Second Temple days, much or all of the Mishnah was hundreds of years older from true Yehudim and date back to the Babylonian exile.

Never-the-less, today, many Christians (especially those in the Christian Identity movement) passionately hate the Talmud and unknowingly say that it is the prime religious book of the evil Jews (without any distinction between good Jews and bad Jews, as stipulated in Jer 24:1-10). It is true that the good Jews (the Oriental Jews, as discussed in the Welcome column at this web site) use especially the Mishnah and the Gemara somewhat to define their faith.

But it is absurdity and stupidity to attribute the Talmud or its use to certainly the Khazar Jews of today (who date to c740 CE, long after the Talmud was reduced to writing in c200-500CE). Thus, there is not even any reason to attribute the Talmud to the evil Amalekites pretending to be Jews in Second Temple days and certainly not to the Khazars since 740 CE.

The truth is that the Amalekites of Second Temple days, as well as those since 740 CE, are Satanists and Luciferians, as discussed in Understanding Money and War, Part XIX, and the Welcome section at this web site. The Amalekites hate Judaism just as much as they hate Christianity and other religions of the world (saving the worship and service of Satan/Lucifer). They have not and do not use the Scriptures for their faith and belief; nor do they in truth even use the Talmud.

To whatever extent that the Amalekites use the Scriptures or Talmud, it is the same way they use the US Declaration of Independence, the US Constitution, the writings of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln, or the writings of early Christian leaders like John Calvin, John and Charles Wesley, William Miller, Ellen White, Herbert W. Armstrong, Bert Comparet, Wesley Swift, etc. They hate them passionately but quote and pretend to accept them while in their hearts and minds they passionately hate the very words and messages.

The Amalekites have and will use the writings of anyone if it helps them in their works of deception (to fool the goyim) and evil to rip off, hurt and destroy the goyim, whom they passionately hate. The religion and belief system of the Amalekites is Satanism/Luciferianism and has nothing to do with the Talmud (thought ignorant Christians will claim the Talmud is a Satanic work; though never allowing that the works of Christians like Calvin, Wesley, Miller, White, Armstrong, Comparet, Swift, etc may be Satanic as well).

The Bottom Line

The bottom line here is that informed and intelligent people need to pull their heads out of the sand and quit being so stupid on the Talmud. The Talmud has some bad material, the same as writings by Christians for the last 2,000 years. But the Talmud has some good points and some material which can be very useful to students of truth. As a minimum, it represents the thinking of people who lived some 2,000 to 2,500 years ago—people who knew Ezra, Nehemiah, Haggai, Zechariah, Malachi, Joseph, Mary, John, Shaul, and YESHUA on a first hand basis.

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